{"id":382611,"date":"2019-02-13T14:11:00","date_gmt":"2019-02-13T12:11:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/devrri.freshlemon.ro\/consulter-les-lecons\/lecon-136-la-voix-pronominale-ii-temps-passe-id382611.html"},"modified":"2019-02-13T14:11:00","modified_gmt":"2019-02-13T12:11:00","slug":"lecon-136-la-voix-pronominale-ii-temps-passe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rri.ro\/fr\/le-roumain-mot-a-mot\/consulter-les-lecons\/lecon-136-la-voix-pronominale-ii-temps-passe-id382611.html","title":{"rendered":"Le\u00e7on 136 &#8211; La voix pronominale &#8211; II &#8211; temps pass\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dominique :Bun\u0103 ziua.   &#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandra :<strong class=cms-bold>Bun\u0103 diminea\u0163a.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandru :<strong class=cms-bold>Bun\u0103 seara.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Ioana :<strong class=cms-bold>Bun\u0103.<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p><strong class=cms-bold><br \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p><strong class=cms-bold>Bun&#13;<br \/>\nvenit, dragi prieteni.<\/strong> Nous sommes loin d&rsquo;avoir \u00e9puis\u00e9 la voix&#13;<br \/>\npronominale &#8211; et nous ne nous proposons d&rsquo;ailleurs pas de le faire. Pourtant,&#13;<br \/>\nm\u00eame en nous tenant \u00e0 l&rsquo;essentiel, quelques pr\u00e9cisions s&rsquo;imposent. La premi\u00e8re&#13;<br \/>\nconcerne le temps pass\u00e9. La situation est similaire &#8211; mais pas identique &#8211; au&#13;<br \/>\nfran\u00e7ais.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Commen\u00e7ons par un retour au verbe<strong class=cms-bold> a sp\u0103la<\/strong> (laver) et&#13;<br \/>\n\u00e0 sa forme pronominale <strong class=cms-bold>a se&#13;<br \/>\nsp\u0103la<\/strong> (se laver).<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Vous vous rappelez le&#13;<br \/>\ntemps pass\u00e9, j&rsquo;esp\u00e8re. Il est construit, en roumain, \u00e0 l&rsquo;aide de l&rsquo;auxiliaire <strong class=cms-bold>a&#13;<br \/>\navea<\/strong> (avoir), auquel on ajoute le participe pass\u00e9 &#8211; en l&rsquo;occurrence <strong class=cms-bold>sp\u0103lat<\/strong>&#13;<br \/>\n(lav\u00e9).  <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Attention: c&rsquo;est toujours&#13;<br \/>\nl&rsquo;auxiliaire <strong class=cms-bold>a avea<\/strong> (avoir) que l&rsquo;on utilise pour les formes&#13;<br \/>\npronominales aussi. <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>A la voix active on dira,&#13;<br \/>\npar exemple :<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandra : Eu am sp\u0103lat. (J&rsquo;ai lav\u00e9.)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>A la voix pronominale, on ajoute le pronom r\u00e9fl\u00e9chi. On&#13;<br \/>\ndevrait donc dire:<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandru : *<strong class=cms-bold>Eu m\u0103 am sp\u0103lat<\/strong>. <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Je ne traduis pas, car cette forme&#13;<br \/>\nn&rsquo;est pas correcte, pas encore. C&rsquo;est que le pronom r\u00e9fl\u00e9chi se termine par une&#13;<br \/>\nvoyelle, l&rsquo;auxiliaire commence par une voyelle ; le roumain, non plus, ne&#13;<br \/>\ntol\u00e8re pas cette rencontre de deux voyelles. Pour \u00e9viter l&rsquo;hiatus, la langue&#13;<br \/>\nroumaine lie les deux petits mots par un trait d&rsquo;union. Dans la plupart des&#13;<br \/>\ncas, la voyelle la plus faible (celle du pronom r\u00e9fl\u00e9chi) est \u00e9cart\u00e9e &#8211; tout&#13;<br \/>\ncomme en fran\u00e7ais. Seulement, le roumain n&rsquo;utilise pas l&rsquo;apostrophe, mais le&#13;<br \/>\ntrait d&rsquo;union.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>La forme correcte pour la premi\u00e8re&#13;<br \/>\npersonne sera donc :<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandru :&#13;<br \/>\n<strong class=cms-bold>Eu m-am sp\u0103lat.<\/strong> Je me suis lav\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>On dira, de la m\u00eame fa\u00e7on : <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Ioana :&#13;<br \/>\n<strong class=cms-bold>El s-a sp\u0103lat<\/strong>. Il s&rsquo;est lav\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>            Ea s-a sp\u0103lat. Elle s&rsquo;est&#13;<br \/>\nlav\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandra : <strong class=cms-bold>Voi v-a\u0163i sp\u0103lat.<\/strong> Vous vous \u00eates lav\u00e9(e)s.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandru : <strong class=cms-bold>Ei s-au sp\u0103lat<\/strong>. Ils se sont lav\u00e9s. <strong class=cms-bold>Ele s-au sp\u0103lat.<\/strong> Elles se sont lav\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Il nous reste deux personnes&#13;<br \/>\n(\u00ab tu \u00bb et \u00ab nous \u00bb) pour lesquelles la voyelle n&rsquo;est pas&#13;<br \/>\n\u00e9cart\u00e9e. Li\u00e9s par le trait d&rsquo;union, les deux petits mots sont pratiquement&#13;<br \/>\nsoud\u00e9s en un seul mot, \u00e0 l&rsquo;int\u00e9rieur duquel les deux voyelles forment une&#13;<br \/>\ndiphtongue. Au lieu de dire :<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandra : *<strong class=cms-bold>Tu te ai sp\u0103lat. <\/strong>  <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>On dira :<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>                    <strong class=cms-bold>Tu te-ai sp\u0103lat.<\/strong> Tu t&rsquo;es lav\u00e9(e).<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>M\u00eame situation pour la premi\u00e8re&#13;<br \/>\npersonne du pluriel. L\u00e0 aussi, au lieu de dire :<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Ioana : *<strong class=cms-bold>Noi ne&#13;<br \/>\nam sp\u0103lat.<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>On dira :<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>                    <strong class=cms-bold>Noi ne-am sp\u0103lat.<\/strong> Nous nous sommes lav\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>Pourquoi cette double solution? Je&#13;<br \/>\npense que c&rsquo;est un des nombreux \u00ab myst\u00e8res \u00bb de la langue&#13;<br \/>\nroumaine.     <\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Pourtant, si la th\u00e9orie est un peu&#13;<br \/>\nr\u00e9barbative, la pratique est, elle, beaucoup plus simple, car toutes ces&#13;<br \/>\ncontractions restent les&#13;<br \/>\nm\u00eames, il suffit de vous y habituer un petit peu et \u00e7a ira de soi.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Afin de me faire pardonner pour&#13;<br \/>\nl&rsquo;effort mental auquel je vous ai soumis &#8211; sans le vouloir &#8211; et pour mieux&#13;<br \/>\nfixer dans votre m\u00e9moire ces formes contract\u00e9es, nous allons conjuguer&#13;<br \/>\nensemble, d&rsquo;un bout \u00e0 l&rsquo;autre, le verbe pronominal <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; <strong class=cms-bold>a se \u00eendr\u0103gosti<\/strong> -&#13;<br \/>\ns&rsquo;\u00e9prendre, tomber amoureux. <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Un verbe qui vient du mot <strong class=cms-bold>dragoste&#13;<br \/>\n<\/strong>&#8211; amour, form\u00e9 \u00e0 partir de la racine drag &#8211; cher, que vous&#13;<br \/>\nconnaissez, <strong class=cms-bold>dragi prieteni.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong class=cms-bold><br \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Attention, les verbes&#13;<br \/>\npronominaux \u00e9tant conjugu\u00e9s toujours avec l&rsquo;auxiliaire <strong class=cms-bold>a avea <\/strong>(avoir) le participe pass\u00e9 reste&#13;<br \/>\ninchang\u00e9, il ne s&rsquo;accorde pas. <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandra : <strong class=cms-bold>Eu m-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit.<\/strong> Je&#13;<br \/>\nsuis tomb\u00e9(e) amoureux ou amoureuse.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandru : <strong class=cms-bold>Tu te-ai \u00eendr\u0103gostit. <\/strong>Tu es tomb\u00e9(e) amoureux ou amoureuse.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Ioana : <strong class=cms-bold>El s-a&#13;<br \/>\n\u00eendr\u0103gostit.<\/strong> Il est&#13;<br \/>\ntomb\u00e9 amoureux. <strong class=cms-bold>Ea s-a \u00eendr\u0103gostit.<\/strong> Elle est tomb\u00e9e amoureuse.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=font-size: 1em;>(Vous allez comprendre&#13;<br \/>\nle reste.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=font-size: 1em;>Alexandra : <\/span><strong class=cms-bold style=font-size: 1em;>Noi ne-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit. <\/strong><span style=font-size: 1em;>Nous sommes tomb\u00e9(e)s amoureux ou&#13;<br \/>\namoureuses.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandru : <strong class=cms-bold>Voi v-a\u0163i \u00eendr\u0103gostit. <\/strong><span style=font-size: 1em;>Vous \u00eates tomb\u00e9(e)(s) amoureux ou&#13;<br \/>\namoureuse(s).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Ioana : <strong class=cms-bold>Ei s-au \u00eendr\u0103gostit.<\/strong> Ils sont tomb\u00e9s amoureux.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p><strong class=cms-bold>Ele s-au \u00eentr\u0103gostit.<\/strong> Elles sont tomb\u00e9es amoureuses. <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>C&rsquo;est le verbe que nous propose Ducu&#13;<br \/>\nBertzi dans la chanson de la le\u00e7on : <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Alexandru : <strong class=cms-bold>M-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit numai de ea. <\/strong><span style=font-size: 1em;>Je suis tomb\u00e9 amoureux d&rsquo;elle&#13;<br \/>\nseule. <\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p><strong class=cms-bold>LA&#13;<br \/>\nREVEDERE !<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<br \/>\n<iframe width=100% height=166 scrolling=no frameborder=no allow=autoplay src=https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/574672611&#038;color=%23ff5500&#038;auto_play=false&#038;hide_related=false&#038;show_comments=true&#038;show_user=true&#038;show_reposts=false&#038;show_teaser=true><\/iframe>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<h3><strong class=cms-bold>Ducu Bertzi &#8211; M-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit numai de ea<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Eu care voiam&#13;<br \/>\n\u00eentr-una alt \u015fi alt decor,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nEu care spuneam prea lesne \u015fi oricui mi-e dor,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAbia c\u00e2nd a plecat pl\u00e2ngand \u015fi n-a mai fost a mea<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nM-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit numai de ea.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nEu care veneam acas\u0103 c-un suras formal,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nMonoton spun\u00e2nd acela\u015fi monolog banal<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nA plecat, mi-am zis, sunt liber, dar n-a fost a\u015fa<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nO iubeam numai pe ea.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<strong class=cms-bold>Refren :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Simt c\u0103&#13;<br \/>\nf\u0103r\u0103 ea nu pot respira<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nCasa e pustie f\u0103r\u0103 ea.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\u00cen ce-a\u015f putea eu s\u0103 mai cred acum<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nA\u015f da orice s-o mai \u00eentorc din drum.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAm z\u0103rit-o pe o strad\u0103 pentr-o clip\u0103 doar<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nS\u0103-i vorbesc \u015fi s\u0103 m-apropii era \u00een zadar :<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nEa care m-a\u015ftepta pl\u00e2ng\u00e2nd cand eu uitam s\u0103 vin<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nM\u0103 privea acum ca pe-un str\u0103in.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nA trecut at\u00e2ta vreme de c\u00e2nd a plecat,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nDar abia acum mi-e drag\u0103 cu adev\u0103rat ;<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAbia acum, c\u00e2nd locuie\u015fte doar la mine-n g\u00e2nd<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nO iubesc mai mult dec\u00e2t oric\u00e2nd.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<strong class=cms-bold>Refren <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nEu care voiam \u00eentr-una alt \u015fi alt decor,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nEu care spuneam prea lesne \u015fi oricui mi-e dor,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAbia c\u00e2nd a plecat pl\u00e2ngand \u015fi n-a mai fost a mea<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nM-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit numai de ea.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nAbia c\u00e2nd a plecat pl\u00e2ngand \u015fi n-a mai fost a mea<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nM-am indragostit numai de ea<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nDa, da,<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\nM-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit numai de ea.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>M-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit&#13;<br \/>\nnumai de ea.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dominique :Bun\u0103 ziua. &#13; &#13; Alexandra :Bun\u0103 diminea\u0163a. &#13; &#13; Alexandru :Bun\u0103 seara. &#13; &#13; Ioana :Bun\u0103. &#13; &#13; Bun&#13; venit, dragi prieteni. Nous sommes loin d&rsquo;avoir \u00e9puis\u00e9 la voix&#13; pronominale &#8211; et nous ne nous proposons d&rsquo;ailleurs pas de le faire. Pourtant,&#13; m\u00eame en nous tenant \u00e0 l&rsquo;essentiel, quelques pr\u00e9cisions s&rsquo;imposent. La premi\u00e8re&#13; concerne [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":382612,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[24],"tags":[85092,84935,85019,85259],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-382611","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-consulter-les-lecons","tag-cours-de-roumain","tag-langue-roumaine","tag-mot-a-mot","tag-voix-pronominale"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Le\u00e7on 136 - La voix pronominale - II - temps pass\u00e9 - Radio Roumanie Internationale<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rri.ro\/fr\/le-roumain-mot-a-mot\/consulter-les-lecons\/lecon-136-la-voix-pronominale-ii-temps-passe-id382611.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Le\u00e7on 136 - La voix pronominale - II - temps pass\u00e9 - Radio Roumanie Internationale\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Dominique :Bun\u0103 ziua. &#013; &#013; Alexandra :Bun\u0103 diminea\u0163a. &#013; &#013; Alexandru :Bun\u0103 seara. &#013; &#013; Ioana :Bun\u0103. &#013; &#013; Bun&#013; venit, dragi prieteni. 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