{"id":425800,"date":"2015-04-23T13:48:00","date_gmt":"2015-04-23T10:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/devrri.freshlemon.ro\/le-roumain-mot-a-mot\/consulter-les-lecons\/presence-de-la-cia-en-roumanie-id425800.html"},"modified":"2015-04-23T13:48:00","modified_gmt":"2015-04-23T10:48:00","slug":"presence-de-la-cia-en-roumanie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rri.ro\/fr\/nos-emissions\/rri-alternatives\/presence-de-la-cia-en-roumanie-id425800.html","title":{"rendered":"Pr\u00e9sence de la CIA en Roumanie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>L\u2019ancien pr\u00e9sident de gauche de la Roumanie du d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 2000, Ion Iliescu, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9, en premi\u00e8re, avoir mis des locaux \u00e0 la disposition de la CIA. L\u2019affirmation, faite dans un entretien pour la publication allemande Der Spiegel, est suivie par la pr\u00e9cision que cela avait \u00e9t\u00e9 un geste de bienveillance vis-\u00e0-vis des Etats Unis, avant l\u2019adh\u00e9sion de la Roumanie \u00e0 l\u2019OTAN, devenue effective en 2004. Les autorit\u00e9s roumaines ne se sont pas ing\u00e9r\u00e9es dans les activit\u00e9s de l\u2019Agence am\u00e9ricaine et ne savaient pas ce qui s\u2019y passait &#8212; pr\u00e9cise encore Ion Iliescu.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Selon les journalistes allemands, il serait devenu, ainsi, le deuxi\u00e8me chef d\u2019Etat apr\u00e8s Aleksander Kwasniewski \u00e0 reconnaitre l\u2019existence des centres secrets de la CIA en Europe. L\u2019eurod\u00e9put\u00e9e lib\u00e9rale Norica Nicolai pense que les d\u00e9clarations de M. Iliescu n\u2019apportent pratiquement rien de nouveau et n\u2019infirment pas les conclusions de 2008 de la commission parlementaire d\u2019enqu\u00eate qu\u2019elle a dirig\u00e9e, en tant que membre, \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9poque, du S\u00e9nat de Bucarest.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Il n\u2019y a pas eu, en Roumanie, \u00e0 ce moment-l\u00e0, d\u2019indices sur des centres de d\u00e9tention de la CIA ou des transferts de prisonniers par des vols secrets &#8212; concluait le rapport de la commission. A l\u2019\u00e9poque chef du Service de renseignements ext\u00e9rieurs et un des collaborateurs les plus fid\u00e8les de Ion Iliescu, Ioan Talpe\u015f avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 reconnu l\u2019existence du b\u00e2timent de la CIA \u00e0 Bucarest.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Mais il avait ajout\u00e9 qu\u2019il aurait dit aux Am\u00e9ricains que la partie roumaine ne voulait rien savoir de ce qui s\u2019y passait. Bien que partag\u00e9s \u00e0 demi-mots, les souvenirs des deux hommes produisent, pourtant, une fissure dans les d\u00e9mentis faits \u00e0 l\u2019unisson, pendant des ann\u00e9es, par tous les responsables politiques roumains. Ion Iliescu lui-m\u00eame et son successeur \u00e0 la pr\u00e9sidence, Traian B\u0103sescu, les premiers ministres, les ministres des Affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res et de la D\u00e9fense, les chefs des services sp\u00e9ciaux de Bucarest l\u2019ont constamment ni\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>\u00ab Nous \u00e9tions alli\u00e9s, nous combattions c\u00f4te \u00e0 c\u00f4te en Afghanistan et au Proche Orient \u00bb &#8211; c\u2019est ainsi que l\u2019ancien pr\u00e9sident \u00e9voque aujourd\u2019hui la p\u00e9riode qui s\u2019est ensuivie aux attentats du 11 septembre 2001. Horrifi\u00e9e  par les milliers de morts provoqu\u00e9es par les terroristes islamistes d\u2019Al-Qa\u00efda, l\u2019opinion publique mondiale n\u2019\u00e9tait pas, alors, aussi exigeante avec les techniques utilis\u00e9es par les agents am\u00e9ricains et alli\u00e9s. L\u2019enjeu essentiel \u00e9tait de pr\u00e9venir de nouveaux carnages, surtout que, tout de suite apr\u00e8s l\u2019Am\u00e9rique, ont suivi les attentats de Madrid et de Londres.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>Qu\u2019il y ait eu ou non de soi-disant op\u00e9rations sales, assaisonn\u00e9es d\u2019arrestations abusives et d\u2019interrogatoires sous torture contre des suspects de terrorisme, cela a fait l\u2019objet de pol\u00e9miques \u00e0 peine plus tard. \u00ab S\u2019ils avaient su ce qui allait se passer l\u00e0-bas, la r\u00e9ponse n\u2019aurait certainement pas \u00e9t\u00e9 positive. Nous avons appris de cette situation \u00e0 \u00eatre plus attentifs et \u00e0 peser minutieusement le probl\u00e8me \u00e0 l\u2019avenir \u00bb &#8211; ajoute Ion Iliescu. Le d\u00e9bat sur le dosage entre libert\u00e9 et s\u00e9curit\u00e9, aussi vieux que la d\u00e9mocratie, se poursuivra constamment. <\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L\u2019ancien pr\u00e9sident de gauche de la Roumanie du d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 2000, Ion Iliescu, a d\u00e9clar\u00e9, en premi\u00e8re, avoir mis des locaux \u00e0 la disposition de la CIA. 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