VARTAN ARACHELIAN — Domnul prof. Vasile Barba dit Germania, di la Universitatea Freiburg dit Germania lu-cunustet dit ndau\u0163 emisiun\u2019i ti li ari adrata l\u2019irtatlu a nostru sot Virgil Tatomir tu an\u2019il\u2019i di ma nainti. Nasu easti prezidentul a ULCA cu scamnul Freiburg tu Germania. Tora ayon\u2019ea numa a lui fu adusa aminti tu una polemica\/ niachic\u0163seari ti insi tu migdani tu vasilie, dupu Congreslu pi cari Uniunea ti u cumanduseasti Dumnil\u2019ea a lui, s-tanu Freiburg tu Germania s\u2019ti atea vahi tra sa u limbidzasca aest\u0163 alatusi\/ niachicaseari ti insi tu opinia public\u0163 rom\u0163neasc\u0163, ghini va s-hib\u0163 ca Domnul profesor Barba s-n\u0163 spun\u0163 cu ti scupo timil\u2019iusi cu nau\u0163 an\u2019 ninti aest\u0163 ULCA.
\nVASILE BARBA — Va haristusescu ti cl\u2019imarea ti n\u2019i-u-featitu si escu h\u0163rios s-limbidz\u0163mu\/ar\u0163d\u0163psim deadun ndau\u0163 lucri prit cari nu i ase s-featir\u0163, un\u0163 dezinformari\/alatusi tu opinia public\u0163 dit Rom\u0163nia. Agiumsu dizn\u0163u cu harau\u0163 dizn\u0163u tu v\u0163silie ca acl\u2019imat a Fundatil\u2019ei Culturali Romani la Forumlu di Mamaia. Un forum a curi-l\u2019i si pricadi tut\u0163 tin\u2019ia c\u0163te adun\u0163 tut\u0163 romanitatea dit tut spatiul balcanic. Tu ti mutreasti ntribarea a Dumniil\u2019ei a voastr\u0163 ULCA easti un\u0163 sutat\u0163 ti fu timil\u2019iusit\u0163, asi cum spuneat, Freiburg, nu f\u0163r\u0163 noim\u0163 Freiburg, c\u0163te aclo romanist\u0163l\u2019i an\u2019 deadir\u0163 agiutorlu tra s-adaru aest\u0163 sutat\u0163 cu doi scupadz, vichimu: s-hib\u0163 t\u0163nut\u0163, s-t\u0163nem\/s-putem si s-ncl\u2019ig\u0163m tu patrimoniul european a romanitatil\u2019ei dit apirit\u0163 si tu patromoniul a yinitoaril\u2019ei a noastr\u0163 patrid\u0163 comun\u0163, Europa, limba a lumachil\u2019ei di tu dat\u0163, a Romanitatil\u2019ei dit Apirit\u0163. Aest\u0163 relicv\u0163\u201d latin\u0163 fuvirsit\u0163 cu chirearea. Sutata fu timil\u2019iusit\u0163 di sapti nvitat arm\u0163n\u2019 (deadun cu\/aduntat) tu un Comitetlu di Initiativ\u0163 si tinti profesori universitari cu anami dit Germania. Cu chirolu, membri ali sutat\u0163 agiumsir\u0163 s-hib\u0163 persoani fiziti di pi trei continenti si persoani juriditi, sutati culturali, atea di Paris, dit Macedonia, dit Iugoslavia, dit America di la Princetown si ma am\u0163nat daua sutati arm\u0163nest\u0163 dit Australia di Melburn s-di Sydney. Si ma am\u0163nt si sutat\u0163 adrat\u0163 tu Rom\u0163nia, cu numa Comunitatea Arom\u0163n\u2019ilor dit Rom\u0163nia.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Domnule profesor revista trimestrial\u0163 ZAN, Cuv\u0163ntul Nostru\u201d. Ti iasti cu n\u0163 oar\u0163 Zborlu a Nostru\u201d, Vorba Noastr\u0163\u201d nu ?\u201d Ti\u2026easti cu \u2026pi aesti continenti?
\nVASILE BARBA — Zborlu a Nostru\u201d nsimneadz\u0163 cum ghini spusit Cuv\u0163ntul Nostru\u201d. C\u0163ndu ded numa a aistei revist\u0163, mi loai di limb\u0163 s-cu sotl\u2019i a mei dit Rom\u0163nia, tu oara anda fudzii, cu nvitatl\u2019i dimi si puteam s-alidzem si un altu zbor Limba a Noastr\u0163\u201d, Grailu a Nostru\u201d, ma mi arisi ma multu Zborlu a Nostru\u201d tra s-alidzem niheam\u0163, ta s\u0163 spunem niheam\u0163 si aestu spetificu. Si zborlu nsimneadz\u0163 cuv\u0163nt dimi vahi yini di la sobor\u201d. La sobor oamin\u2019il\u2019i s-adun\u0163 nu ta s-tac\u0163 ma ta s\u0163 zburasc\u0163.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Problema ti s-bag\u0163 easti, tu ti scar\u0163\/ziy\u0163 u videt voi limba ufilisi\u0163 di arman\u2019i cu limba rom\u0163n\u0163 ufilisit\u0163 di rom\u0163n\u2019 tu locurli dit Dacia traditional\u0163?
\nVASILE BARBA — Lucurlu, cara zburarea a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor easti un\u0163 limb\u0163 un dialectu, un idiom fu zbur\u0163t\u0163 di oamin\u2019 di stiint\u0163.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Dealihea easti un\u0163 luyurie stiintific\u0163 si nu voi s-intr\u0163m tu un lucru spe\u0163ial…
\nVASILE BARBA — Noi Freiburg avum sinfer cum s-t\u0163nem tu ban\u0163 aest\u0163 zburari cum ti s-hib\u0163 cum va-l\u2019i spunem c\u0163te ea s-astindzea. Ahurhindalui cu an\u2019il\u2019i 50 tu tut\u0163 Europa limbili reghionali avea ahurhit\u0163 s\u0163 s-asting\u0163. T\u0163s tu decheniul optu ahurhi un\u0163 distiptari\/ revirimentu di xanadistiptari a spiritlui cari s-duc\u0163 la t\u0163nearea tu ban\u0163 a limbilor reghionali fuvirsiti cu chirearea. C\u0163te Europa duchiiu aest\u0163 c\u0163te earam ma aproapea di Strasburg, iu bati inima a Europ\u0163l\u2019ei, duchiiu c\u0163 Europa nu va tra s-arm\u0163n\u0163 oarf\u0163n\u0163 mas cu un\u0163 limb\u0163 ca America vichimu si niti\u2026
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — S-inventeadz\u0163\/S\u0163 scoat\u0163 tu migdani un\u0163 limb\u0163 artifitial\u0163 cum easti esperando cum ari nu …
\nVASILE BARBA – \u2026Si s-t\u0163n\u0163 tru ban\u0163, tut\u0163 yistearea a l\u2019ei cu lilici ta s-dz\u0163cu asi, ma s-u minduim ca un\u0163 g\u0163rdin\u0163, limbili, tuti turliili di limbi\u2026
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN – Ti apr\u0163ft\u0163si\/s-adar\u0163 sutata a voastr\u0163 tu aestu plan?
\nVASILE BARBA — Sutata a noastr\u0163 nu putea s-t\u0163n\u0163 tu ban\u0163 reliqa\u201d latin\u0163 dit dat\u0163, c\u0163 masi cara vrea u adutea zburarea lor tu scar\u0163 di limb\u0163. C\u0163te Europa nu putea s-andrupasc\u0163 t\u0163nearea dialectilor ic\u0163 a graiurlor, suntu suti s-suti. Ama limbili fuvirsiti cu chirearea eara un\u0163 borgi a l\u2019ei eara tu programlu a Comunitatil\u2019ei Europeani. S\u2019atumtea, featim pred\u0163 prit ndridzearea a dau\u0163 Congresi Internationali, l\u0163 dz\u0163su internationali c\u0163 loar\u0163 parti oamin\u2019 di stiint\u0163 dit ma multi natiun\u2019. Protlu\u2026ateali dau\u0163 congresi, di Mannheim dit 1985 s-deapoa Freiburg tu 1988 si prit Cursul di Limb\u0163 Arm\u0163n\u0163 t\u0163nuti trei veri cu participant\u0163 dit tut\u0163 Hamunisia Balcanic\u0163, noi putum di c\u0163nd\u0163sim opinia public\u0163 european\u0163 si ofitialit\u0163tli ti au borgi di mirili a Europ\u0163l\u2019ei c\u0163 aest\u0163 reliq\u0163 latin\u0163 ti easti zburarea a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor, easti un\u0163 limb\u0163 ti-l\u2019i si pricadi s-hib\u0163 t\u0163nut\u0163 tu ban\u0163 s-dimi andrup\u0163t\u0163 ta s-nu chear\u0163. S\u2019asi s-ngr\u0163psi tu harta a limbilor regionali fuvirsiti cu chirearea s-tricuti sum areapta avigl\u2019itoari a Parlamentului European si limba arm\u0163neasc\u0163.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — G\u0163rtia eara tu atea oar\u0163, goala v\u0163silie dit Blacani mebr\u0163 tu Consiliul a Europ\u0163l\u2019ei\u2026nu?
\nVASILE BARBA — Cum eara hirescu\/Comisia apufusi\u2026asi cum s-c\u0163dea, aest\u0163 apofasi f\u0163tea spuneari ti G\u0163rtia. Iara pi harta a Europ\u0163l\u2019ei cu aesti limbi tu Munt\u0163l\u2019i a Pindului, fu ngr\u0163psit\u0163 la ar\u0163d\u0163richea 45 limba arm\u0163neasc\u0163. Aestu amintatic alu lugursescu nai ma marea realizari\/prucupseari a sutat\u0163l\u2019ei a noastr\u0163 si a ban\u0163l\u2019ei a mea, vahi.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Mi tornu la ntribarea ti va u b\u0163gai. Tu ti raportu easti arm\u0163na cu limba zbur\u0163t\u0163 tu Rom\u0163nia? Dup\u0163 minduearea a voastr\u0163? C\u0163te v\u0163 aflar\u0163 c\u0163bati c\u0163 vret s-adrat dit arm\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i ti b\u0163neadz\u0163 tu Rom\u0163nia un\u0163 minoritati national\u0163, lucru ti yini tu contradictie cu istoria a noastr\u0163. Dimi, minduescu c\u0163 tu Transilvania bun\u0163oar\u0163 la mitropotlitlu Andrei Saguna ti ari un rol mari ti t\u0163nearea s-ma largu tu ban\u0163 a rom\u0163nismului pisti munt\u0163, minduescu la c\u0163piili a minaril\u2019ei nationalist\u0163 dit Rom\u0163nia cari vinir\u0163 dit Munt\u0163l\u2019i a Pindului si s-integrar\u0163 nu mas ca cet\u0163tean\u2019 ali Rom\u0163nie ama intrar\u0163 tu min\u0163ri ti scoasir\u0163 diininti nationalismul a nostru. Nu zbur\u0163m tora cari fur\u0163 consecintili\/zn\u2019iili a aistei afirmari ama voi s\u0163 spun c\u0163 el\u2019i avea aest\u0163 identitati, avea constiinta a identitatil\u2019ei a lor cu rom\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i di na-st\u0163nga a Dun\u0163l\u2019ei, nu?
\nVASILE BARBA – Largu di noi, atel\u2019 ti adr\u0163m aest\u0163 sutat\u0163\u2026
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN – C\u0163te aestu fu un cap di stipseari ti actiunn\u2019li voastri cu Congreslu ti s-t\u0163nu aest\u0163 vear\u0163 Freiburg.
\nVASILE BARBA — Cafi oar\u0163 si Congreslu di Freiburg avu idyiul scupo cum si alanti dau\u0163 congresi ti fur\u0163 cu harau\u0163 aprucheati di tut\u0163 lumea dit Rom\u0163nia, nica s-di atel\u2019i cari minduir\u0163 s\u0163-lu lugurseasc\u0163 ca un\u0163 diversiuni\/ar\u0163deari\/agudeari.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN – Cari easti punctul di videari a Vostru ti aest\u0163?
\nVASILE BARBA — Lucurlu ti lu spunet voi easti un lucru ma complexu\/ma mari. Cazlu arm\u0163n easti un caz atipic. Nu putem s-lu ac\u0163t\u0163m tu isapi, tu niti un altu tip di lucri di idyea turlie. Arm\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i tu Rom\u0163nia, al\u2019i dz\u0163teamu si a l\u2019irtatlui Virgil Tatomir c\u0163ndu b\u0163g\u0163 aest\u0163 ntribari va s-hib\u0163 nvirinat cara el\u2019 va s-hib\u0163 luyursit minoritari tu Rom\u0163nia. Ama va s-hib\u0163 multu nvirinat ma s-hib\u0163 di s-l\u0163 caft\u0163 fratl\u2019i a lor la cari vinir\u0163 tra s-afl\u0163 un apanghiu, apanghiu maxus ti yistearea a lor ti u adusir\u0163 tu trasturli a lor, grailu a lor, c\u0163nticlu a lor polifonic, adetli a lor, adet t\u0163nuti di pap stripap chiro di 2000 di an\u2019, va s-hib\u0163 multu nvirinat cara va l\u0163 si caft\u0163 tra s-alas\u0163 aestu spetificu a lor. Arm\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i dimec\u2026
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Asi cum va s-hib\u0163 mari nvirinari cara maramuresen\u2019il\u2019i bun\u0163oar\u0163 s-trag\u0163 m\u0163n\u0163 di la adestli a lor ic\u0163 moldoven\u2019il\u2019i ic\u0163 olten\u2019l\u2019i ic\u0163 dobrogen\u2019il\u2019i, mi mindueam\u2026
\nVASILE BARBA — S-l\u0163 si caft\u0163 a maramureasan\u2019ilor s-trag\u0163 m\u0163n\u0163 di la stran\u2019ilu alor ghio taha ti uniformitati. Arm\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i suntu tru Rom\u0163nia un\u0163 comunitati dimec un\u0163 colectivitati di oamin\u2019\/un\u0163 parei ti au un spetificu comun, ti nu easti idyea cu al\u0163ntor. Si aestu spetificu comun cari s\u0163-lu creasc\u0163, cari s\u0163-lu t\u0163n\u0163 tu ban\u0163 cara nu el\u2019i isis, cara tu Rom\u0163nia di az\u0163 ma s-tu chirolu di ma ninti, tut b\u0163n\u0163torl\u2019i di aua avur\u0163 agiutor ic\u0163 fur\u0163 elefteri tra s-t\u0163n\u0163 spetificlu a lor, si spetificlu a lor lu-feati avut spetificlu comun a aistei v\u0163silie museati cari easti Rom\u0163nia. Ghini ma, chirearea a zburaril\u2019ei a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor, chirearea a c\u0163nticlui polifonic a lor a adetlor va s-hib\u0163 un\u0163 zn\u2019ie ti patrimoniul cultural. Noi featim timbihi\/c\u0163ft\u0163m di Freiburg s-amint\u0163m ndreptul ti un\u0163 mir\u0163 isis. Tu G\u0163rtie, tu Albania, tu Ripublica Macedonia di az\u0163, tu V\u0163rg\u0163rie, tu S\u0163rbie noi him minorit\u0163t ahoryea, nu him gret, nu him s\u0163rghi, nu him arbinesi nu him altutiva. Him Arm\u0163n\u2019. Si multu ghini spusi profesorlu Arvinte la Congreslu aestu iu vini c\u0163 atumtea c\u0163ndu arom\u0163nlu dz\u0163ti arom\u0163n, ic\u0163 arm\u0163n ngl\u2019it\u0163ndalui pi o\u201d atel, tu zburarea di cafi dzua, ic\u0163 rrm\u0163n, rrm\u0163n dz\u0163ti dimec roman. C\u0163ndu rom\u0163nlu dz\u0163ti rom\u0163n ic\u0163 rom\u0163n huryeatlu, el dz\u0163ti roman. Dimec zborlu di Roman easti atel ti n\u0163 spuni c\u0163 him un\u0163. Asi cum maramureasanlu ti cari adusit aminti nu easti oltean, ama s-un s-alantu suntu rom\u0163n\u2019.
\nV.A. — Tamam\u2026
\nVASILE BARBA — Tut asite, asi cum gr\u0163mosteanlu dit Munt\u0163l\u2019i a Pindului si moscopoleanlu ic\u0163 f\u0163rserotlu\u2026dimec gr\u0163musteanlu nu easti f\u0163rserotu s-niti f\u0163rserotlu gr\u0163musteanu ama dol\u2019i suntu arm\u0163n\u2019. Si asi cum rom\u0163nlu nu easti arm\u0163n s-niti arm\u0163nlu rom\u0163n ama dol\u2019i suntu roman\u2019il\u2019ii a Orientului, ncurpil\u2019eadz\u0163 Romanitatea dit Apirit\u0163.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Domnule profesor Barba voi s-v\u0163 aduc aminti ti nisc\u0163nti lucri istoriti de netagaduit\u201d\/ ti armasir\u0163. Nica dit seculu ti tricu, statlu rom\u0163n tu ahurhita a exsitent\u0163l\u2019ei a lui modern\u0163 discl\u2019isi scol\u2019iuri tu limba rom\u0163n\u0163 tu locurli iu b\u0163neadz\u0163 arm\u0163n\u2019. Cu discl\u2019idearea a aistor sculii distipt\u0163 dimi constiinta a unei ar\u0163d\u0163tin\u0163 comun\u0163 cu rom\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i di nast\u0163nga a Dun\u0163l\u2019ei. Prit aest\u0163 constiint\u0163 el\u2019i s\u0163 ast\u0163r\u0163 c\u0163t\u0163 patrida a lor dad\u0163 si s-aflar\u0163 aua identitatea. Voi spun botli ti v\u0163 afl\u0163 c\u0163bati, vret ca tu aesti locuri iu b\u0163neadz\u0163 arm\u0163n\u2019l\u2019i s-hib\u0163 nvitat\u0163 arm\u0163na s-nu limba literar\u0163 rom\u0163n\u0163 cum fu adrat\u0163 nica dit secolu ti tricu p\u0163n dup\u0163 protlu polim mondial tu aesti locuri. Dimec cari easti minduita a voastr\u0163 ti aest\u0163 chestiuni? Dimi cum videt v\u0163 bag antrib\u0163ri ndilicati c\u0163te lipseasti s-hib\u0163 limbidz\u0163ti luc\u0163rli aesti\u2026
\nVASILE BARBA — Nu suntu cunuscuti luc\u0163rli\u2026iara atel\u2019i ti zbur\u0163scu si zbur\u0163scu\u2026cari zbur\u0163scu multu maxus, suntu arupt\u0163 di aver. Si nu lipseasti s-hib\u0163 zbur\u0163t aestu lucru c\u0163 masi di atel\u2019i ti cunoscu averurli di az\u0163. Noi nu putem s-minduim c\u0163 tora him idyea cum earam ninti di chirolu a polimnlui. Alt\u0163 easti catandisea di az\u0163 si alti suntu perspectivili vidzuti di aua si nclo.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Tu un\u0163 Europ\u0163 unit\u0163 vahi\u2026
\nLa Liv\u0163dz iu escu faptu prota scola rom\u0163neasc\u0163 lucr\u0163 tu casa a paplui a meu. Iara afendili a meu si fratili a lui eara dascal\u2019i la aest\u0163 scoal\u0163 rom\u0163neasc\u0163. Avui ispetea aua s\u0163 spun cum nvitai pi cinusi s-ngr\u0163psim c\u0163ndu scoala n\u0163 si avea ncl\u2019is\u0163 ti un chiro. Ama dascal\u2019i a nost\u0163 spunea c1 te easti ananghi di grailu a nostru. Atumtea tut\u0163 fumeal\u2019a zbura arm\u0163na ncas\u0163 iara limba rom\u0163n\u0163 literar\u0163 n\u0163 agiuta s\u0163-lu cristem si grailu a nostru si cu chirolu s\u0163-lu f\u0163tem un\u0163, tu zburarea ngr\u0163psit\u0163. Ghini ma tu aest\u0163 et\u0163 ti u b\u0163nai eta di polim s-di dup\u0163 polim dusi la un\u0163 nau\u0163 catandisi. Cara mul\u2019earea ninti lu-t\u0163nea grailu p\u0163rintescu c\u0163te ea sidea acas\u0163 si b\u0163rbatlu poliglot yinindalui acas\u0163 lipsea s\u0163 spun\u0163 Bun\u0163 dzua\u201d a dad\u0163l\u2019ei a lui si a nicuchir\u0163l\u2019ei a lui ti nu cunustea alt\u0163 limb\u0163, az\u0163 si mul\u2019earea s-duti la scoal\u0163.
\nV.A. — Integrat\u0163 sutial, easti limbid\u2026
\nVASILE BARBA – Tut\u0163 fumeal\u2019a easti stuhinat\u0163 cafi dzu\u0163 cu limba ofitial\u0163 si aestu lucru nu s-fati mas la mul\u2019eri. Ia vidzui la rom\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i di Vidin, di ning\u0163 Vidin, di aua di aproapea, ausl\u2019i nu pot s\u0163 s-achic\u0163seasc\u0163 cu n\u2019itl\u2019i cari stiu mas limba v\u0163rgar\u0163. S-la arm\u0163n\u2019 mas ausl\u2019i nica u t\u0163nu az\u0163 limba si multu aretcu mas tu pt\u0163ni hori tut\u0163 fumeal\u2019a nica zburasti arm\u0163na. S-tora, n\u2019itl\u2019i di la gr\u0163dinit\u0163 p\u0163n\u0163 la bitisearea a studiilor nvit\u0163ndalui mas limba ufitial\u0163 di stat, acas\u0163 limba di dad\u0163 easti al\u0163xit\u0163. S-poati az\u0163 s-b\u0163g\u0163m dizn\u0163u grailu a lor s-hib\u0163 nicuchiri dizn\u0163u acas\u0163 prit limba literar\u0163 di Bucuresti? Limba rom\u0163n\u0163 agiumsi tru sc\u0163ri analti macxus prit peana al Eminescu. Ari t\u0163nut\u0163 ah\u0163ti neologhismi, frantuzismi maxus. Nu pot s-fac\u0163 moeabeti\u2026Tinirl\u2019i cari nvitar\u0163 scoal\u0163 rom\u0163neasc\u0163 aua, ma mult\u0163 an\u2019 eara vinit aua tu Rom\u0163nia, mult\u0163 tiniri arm\u0163n\u2019 dit G\u0163rtie cari nvitar\u0163 multu ghini limba rom\u0163n\u0163. Ma c\u0163ndu s-dusir\u0163 acas\u0163 ma nu u stea arm\u0163na c\u0163 mas limba literar\u0163 rom\u0163na el\u2019 nu putur\u0163 s-fac\u0163 moeabeti. Putur\u0163 s\u0163 spun\u0163 mas Bun\u0163 dzua\u201d, Bun\u0163 seara\u201d. Ma nclo tu un\u0163 moeabeti ma ndilicat\u0163 vidzur\u0163 ananghi s-ufiliseasc\u0163 limba ofitial\u0163. Dimi cheari. Ma s-hib\u0163 di s\u0163 s-bag\u0163 az\u0163 tu nvitari, limba rom\u0163n\u0163 tr\u0163 tiniri si ma s-hib\u0163 di s-nveat\u0163 tut tinirl\u2019i prit absurd s-dz\u0163tem, tut tinirl\u2019i vrea s-nveat\u0163 ghini limba, tut tinirl\u2019i arm\u0163n\u2019, el\u2019 va s-fac\u0163 moeabeti acas\u0163 tut tu limba ufitial\u0163 a statlui c\u0163te p\u0163rint\u0163l\u2019i nu avur\u0163\u2026c\u0163bilea
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Voi avet argumenti multu salami. Mindueam c\u0163 ma s-cultiv\u0163m ma largu adgheafurli nu mata va s-avem atel lucru ti s-n\u0163 leag\u0163. Ama pistipsescu c\u0163 spunerli a voastri suntu c\u0163ndisitoari nu mas ti mini ama s-ti atel\u2019 ti n\u0163 mutrescu.
\nVASILE BARBA — Atel\u2019 ti pripun tra s-discl\u2019id\u0163 dizn\u0163u licei, sculii 200 di sculii tu G\u0163rtie pi p\u0163radzl\u2019i a statlui au buni naet ma nyiseadz\u0163. El\u2019i nu suntu irbapi tra s-l\u2019ea un\u0163 viz\u0163 tra s-agiung\u0163 tru G\u0163rtie tu locurli iu s-amintar\u0163 p\u0163rint\u0163l\u2019i c\u0163te aest\u0163 easti catandisea. Va s-da izini v\u0163r\u0163 stat dit Hamunisia Balcanic\u0163 c\u0163 Rom\u0163nia s-discl\u2019id\u0163 scol\u2019iuri mas ti arm\u0163n\u2019? Rom\u0163nia poati la Sofia un liceu ama s-ti cet\u0163tean\u2019il\u2019i v\u0163rgari si aclo liceulu rom\u0163n poati s-lucreadz\u0163 dizn\u0163u.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Prit achic\u0163seari un alantu…
\nVASILE BARBA — Va s-poat\u0163 liceulu di Bitolia s-lucreadz\u0163 dizn\u0163u. Deapoa s\u2019limba rom\u0163n\u0163, poati s-hib\u0163 si slava…
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Tru conditiili aesti Voi minduit c\u0163 luc\u0163rli practiti a Uniunil\u2019ei a voast\u0163 suntu multu ma cu h\u0163iri, dealihea.
\nVASILE BARBA — Ateali di la protlu Congres International si di la protlu numir a revist\u0163l\u2019ei a noastr\u0163 ZAN cari li avem pitricut\u0163 tru 2000 di exemplari tru ateali trei continenti s-tru cari spusim ananghea ti t\u0163nearea tru ban\u0163 a zburaril\u2019ei a arm\u0163n\u2019loru prit c\u0163l\u2019iuri di lucru practiti. Nu ag\u0163rsit, mi-afar\u0163 c\u0163bati c\u0163 escu silvicultor. C\u0163t\u0163 mirachi vrea s-aveam ma s-earam silvicultor. Easti un\u0163 z\u0163nati ti u tin\u2019isescu multu. Escu masi…c\u0163 te feciu studii juriditi, un doctorat tru stiinti juriditi, altu tru stiinti economiti iar studiili di filologhie li d\u0163n\u0163siiu tu anlu trei c\u0163te nicuchira a mea li-avea bitisit\u0163. Ama mi lugursescu un bun organizator, un manager. Ama dit ahurhit\u0163 noi lugursim c\u0163 masi cara va s-u adutem tru scar\u0163 di limb\u0163, zburarea, a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor putem s- u b\u0163g\u0163m tru scol\u2019i tu mass-media s-tu b\u0163serit. Asi putem s-adutem dizn\u0163u grailu a lor st\u0163p\u0163n tru casili a lor s-deapoa limba rom\u0163n\u0163, ti un arm\u0163n cari s-c\u0163noasti grailu, va s-hib\u0163 multu lisor ti nvitari. Nu-l\u2019i lipseasti ma multu di un mes tra s-poat\u0163 s\u0163 zburasc\u0163 lisor. Si multu lisor va-l\u2019i hib\u0163 a arm\u0163nlui deapoa tra s-hib\u0163 poliglot\u2026si alti limbi neolatini a soiil\u2019ei di ma largu, franceza, italiana si alti. Noi luyursim c\u0163 Roma easti dada a noastr\u0163, tu ti mutreasti limba iar c\u0163 rom\u0163na nord-dun\u0163rean\u0163 easti sora a oastr\u0163 bun\u0163. Si him susto c\u0163nd\u0163sit, c\u0163 va s-poat\u0163 ateali dau\u0163 sur\u0163ri rom\u0163na si arom\u0163na s-arm\u0163n\u0163 tu ban\u0163 ma s-andrupasc\u0163 un\u0163 alant\u0163. Cara arm\u0163na, az\u0163 aflat\u0163 tru tr\u0163n\u2019ipseari, nu va s-hib\u0163 agiutat\u0163 s-hib\u0163 t\u0163nut\u0163 tru ban\u0163, va s-avem tu scurtu chiro mas un\u0163 sor\u0163, tu Dacia la nodu di Duna, alant\u0163 va s-chear\u0163. Nu f\u0163r\u0163 noim\u0163 marli svantu T. Papahagi, aestu titan, cari ma agiumsi pi isapea cum s-duti chirolu spusi un\u0163 greau\u0163\/urut\u0163 mindueari atea ti va s-fac\u0163 dimi c\u0163 secolu aestu va s-hib\u0163 secolu ti astindzearea a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor. S-ar\u0163si. Iara c\u0163te mi ntribat tr\u0163 treilu congres\u2026Ia s-v\u0163 spun treilu Congres fu ndreptu sum numai, ti spuneari, c\u0163 nu va s-hib\u0163 dealihea aest\u0163 urut\u0163 noim\u0163 al Tache Papahagi. Nu \u201cArm\u0163nlu nu Cheari\u201d an\u2019 dz\u0163su! S-cum nu cheari ? Mas prit t\u0163nearea a identitatil\u2019ei a lui. Cara zburarea a lui s-u t\u0163nu chiro di dau\u0163 milenii s-mac\u0163 b\u0163g\u0163 aest\u0163 lumachi sudic\u0163, vula a cultur\u0163l\u2019ei, filotim\u0163, latin\u0163 tracoromani, tru tuti locurli sud-dun\u0163reani c\u0163te s-nu u bag\u0163 s-di aua si-nclo? C\u0163te aest\u0163 s\u0163n\u0163toas\u0163 lumachi a latinitatil\u2019ei dit Apirit\u0163 cum spuneat voi, cara tru chirolu di n\u0163inti putu tra s-da personalit\u0163t cu anami a popului rom\u0163n, a Rom\u0163niil\u2019ei si cil\u0163st\u0163si ti f\u0163tearea dizn\u0163u a v\u0163siliil\u2019ei mari, si-l\u2019i deadi nu mas c\u0163te aest\u0163 lumachi armasi s\u0163n\u0163toas\u0163 tru munt\u0163 si dit sinlu a l\u2019ei insir\u0163 oamin\u2019 s\u0163n\u0163toasi ama s-ti atea c\u0163 s-duchir\u0163 aproapi frat c\u0163ndu deadir\u0163 di\u2026tru Transilvania dimi ic\u0163 tru Printipati, candu deadir\u0163 di oamin\u2019 ti zbura limb\u0163 rom\u0163n\u0163. Ia aest\u0163 easti minduescu io lucurlu ti lipseasti s-lu acat\u0163 tu isapi si organili ofitiali dit Rom\u0163nia. Dit ahurhit\u0163 sutata a noastr\u0163 pripusi gr\u0163diniti ti ficiuritl\u2019i n\u2019it tru grailu p\u0163rintescu. N\u2019iclu s-nu hib\u0163 c\u0163rtit… nica di n\u2019ic, loatu nbratili a dad\u0163l\u2019ei cu un\u0163 limb\u0163 xean\u0163, ofitial\u0163. C\u0163te anamisa di limb\u0163 a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor si atea a gretlor ari un mari adgheafur. S-nu zburasc\u0163 n\u2019iclu la doi an\u2019 albaneza si c\u0163ndu yini acas\u0163 s\u0163-l\u2019 caft\u0163 a dad\u0163l\u2019ei tu albanez\u0163 p\u0163ni, lapti ic\u0163 ap\u0163. Ti va s-dz\u0163c\u0163 gr\u0163diniti ti ficiurit tru grailu a lor. Ti aest\u0163 nu easti ananghi di c\u0163rt\u0163, nu easti ananghi di gramatit. Easti ananghi di d\u0163sc\u0163liti. Iara ofitialit\u0163tli dit Rom\u0163nia, fratl\u2019i a nost\u0163 dit Rom\u0163nia pot s-n\u0163 agiut\u0163 prit nvitarea a n\u0163sc\u0163ntor dascaliti si prit ndridzearea a n\u0163sc\u0163ntor gr\u0163diniti ti ficiurit tru tuti statili dit Baklcani, c\u0163 s-hib\u0163 pi cali privat\u0163 prit sutatili culturali dit Rom\u0163nia, prit fundatiili ti suntu. Si tu chirolu di az\u0163 poati s\u0163 s-fac\u0163 s-cu agiutorlu a Comunitatil\u2019ei Europeani c\u0163 aesti gr\u0163diniti s-hib\u0163 discl\u2019isi, s-lucreadz\u0163. Deapoa, la scol\u2019iurli primari\u2026 toradioar\u0163 easti un\u0163 iluzie\/s-minduim c\u0163 putem s-discl\u2019idem scol\u2019iuri mas ti el\u2019i, licee mas ti el\u2019. Nu avem ananghi toradioar\u0163 s-niti nu putem c\u0163 mas oari\/s\u0163h\u0163t di limb\u0163 matern\u0163 tu scol\u2019iurli ufitiali iu b\u0163neadz\u0163…un\u0163, dau\u0163 ori tru st\u0163m\u0163n\u0163 cari s-l\u0163 lu-t\u0163n\u0163 tru ban\u0163 grailu.
\nDeapoa, limba arm\u0163n\u0163 lisor poati s-hib\u0163 b\u0163gat\u0163 tu clasili superiaori.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Lipseasti s-n\u0163 d\u0163n\u0163sim si voi s\u0163 spun c\u0163 aesti c\u0163ft\u0163ri ti li spunet Voi suntu di nai n\u2019tli ti standardili a Comunitatil\u2019ei Europeani dimec eali pot s-hib\u0163 b\u0163gati tu lucru, nu?
\nVASILE BARBA — Nu mas ah\u0163ntu. Ama nu easti duri masi ah\u0163ntu. Ti aest\u0163 arm\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i lipseasti s-hib\u0163 luyursit aclo un\u0163 minoritati, un\u0163 etnie ahoryea, asi cum easti si nu lipseasti s-hib\u0163 lugursit tu diaspor\u0163 cum avdz\u0163i c\u0163 un ambasador a nostru l\u0163 spusi a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor ti b\u0163tur\u0163 la usa a ambasad\u0163l\u2019ei c\u0163 poati s\u0163-l\u2019i-agiut\u0163 mas cara el\u2019 va s-lugurseasc\u0163 rom\u0163n\u2019i dit Dacia dimec s\u2019c\u0163 suntu aclo tru diaspor\u0163. Tu Albania tu G\u0163rtie, tu Macedonia noi nu him tu diaspor\u0163. Noi him st\u0163p\u0163n\u2019, nai ma vecl\u2019ili st\u0163p\u0163n\u2019\/populi a atilor locuri, pi ning\u0163 cari vinir\u0163 si alti fari ti li-apruchem cu vreari si cari az\u0163 agiumsir\u0163 s-hib\u0163 minoritari. S-mini am nica tiva ti ad\u0163vgari. Cara fratl\u2019i a nost\u0163 dit nordul a Dun\u0163l\u2019ei nu pot s\u0163-l\u2019-agiut\u0163 atel\u2019i dit sudlu a Dun\u0163l\u2019ei deapoa s-nu-l\u2019i ncheadic\u0163 ic\u0163 s-nu l\u0163 aduc\u0163 chindinu. Noi fum dispul\u2019at di numa veacl\u2019i\/orighinal\u0163 rom\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i suntu dacorom\u0163n\u2019i iara arm\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i suntu macedorom\u0163n\u2019si suntu oamin\u2019il\u2019i a tutiput\u0163l\u2019ei dit locurli tu cari b\u0163nar\u0163 v\u0163r\u0163oar\u0163 Alexandru Makedon si clirunoml\u2019i a lui. Ghini ma, Craiova noi apruchem s-discl\u2019id\u0163 un rectorat di limba macedonean\u0163. Si s-tipusi cu mari curbani un dictionar rom\u0163n-macedoneam si macedonean-rom\u0163n. Ti va s-dz\u0163c\u0163, easti un dictionar v\u0163rgaru-rom\u0163n si rom\u0163n-v\u0163rgaru. Cum s-poati ca noi s-apruchem, si aua gretl\u2019i au ndriptati, c\u0163 un popul ti yini di Volga s-ti zburasti un\u0163 limb\u0163 slav\u0163, easti limbid ti tut\u0163 lumea, s\u0163 spun\u0163 c\u0163 limba a lui easti limba macedonean\u0163 si s\u0163 s-adar\u0163 aest\u0163 alatusi. Si noi s-him lugursit tu Rom\u0163nia\u2026di atel\u2019i ti discl\u2019id dictionarlu rom\u0163n-macedonean c\u0163 him \u2026a un\u0163 limb\u0163 v\u0163rgar\u0163\u201d. Emu, limba aest\u0163 easti un\u0163 limb\u0163 slav\u0163. Poati s\u0163-l\u2019i si dz\u0163c\u0163 un rectorat di slav\u0163-macedonean\u0163. S\u2019Craiova s-hib\u0163 t\u0163nut aestu rectorat ma s-aib\u0163 vrearea, ama pi ning\u0163 el s-aib\u0163 si un rectorat di macedovalah\u0163 ic\u0163 macedorom\u0163n\u0163, cum va s\u0163-l\u2019i si spun\u0163 ma dgheafurlu s\u0163 s-fac\u0163 salami si dictionarlu alu Tache Paphagi, tipusit mas tu 1000 di exemplari, chiro tu cari easti tipusitu tu n\u2019il\u2019i s-n\u2019il\u2019i di exemplari aestu dictionar v\u0163rgaru-rom\u0163n si rom\u0163n-v\u0163rgaru. Ma s-ib\u0163 vreari ti agiutarea arm\u0163n\u2019ilor, Dictionarlu monumentu alu Tache Papahagi lipseasti s-hib\u0163 tipusit dizn\u0163u cu iti curbani. Lipseasti s-hib\u0163 tipusiti c\u0163rt\u0163 tu zburarea a lor a arm\u0163n\u2019ilor\u2026
\nV.A. — S-tipusescu\u2026
\nVASILE BARBA – Si s-tipusescu. Voi s-cundil\u2019edzu c\u0163, cheaditli tu tut\u0163 Hamunisia Balcanic\u0163, nu yin di la ufitialit\u0163tli xeani ic\u0163 di la populi xeani, yinu di la oamin\u2019i di n\u0163untru. Tu G\u0163rtie, nu gretl\u2019i n\u0163 caft\u0163 s-n\u0163 al\u0163s\u0163m grailu a nostru, c\u0163 masi ndoi ti au sinfer s-aib\u0163 platform\u0163 politic\u0163. Va-l\u2019i pl\u0163c\u0163rsescu maxus arm\u0163n\u2019il\u2019i s-aduc\u0163 aminti di stihurli museati alu Soricu pi cari \u2026c\u0163te sed aclo iu suntu, sum arin\u0163, li-aduc aminti ac\u0163 nu va s-pot s-li spun cu iho ama noima a lor va s-hib\u0163 achic\u0163situ:
\n\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026..
\narina di pi mealuri\/oahti\u201d spunea Soricu:
\nVidzuta-t ti lisor ti spulbirari tu aer\u0163 i lisor
\n\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/p>\n
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Nisipul de pe maluri\u201d
\n\u2026spunea Soricu:
\nV\u0163zuta-t ce usor
\nDe spulberat in aer
\nDe orice v\u0163ntisor?
\nC\u0163nd se uneste ins\u0163
\nGr\u0163unte cu gr\u0163unte
\nS-o st\u0163nc\u0163 se incheag\u0163
\nDe firele m\u0163runte\u201d
\nCe-i pas\u0163 atuncea st\u0163ncii
\nDe-a v\u0163ntului suflare?\u201d
\n Din loc\u2026nici uraganul
\n Nu se urneste…nzare\u201d.
\nNica adavgu ama c\u0163 poati s-hib\u0163 spilat ninti ta s-ncl\u2019eag\u0163, di cupriili\u201d. E ghine ma si a aistoru frat sdit nordul a Dun\u0163l\u2019ei l\u0163 pitrec aest\u0163 cl\u2019imari alu Soricu: Uniri s-iara uniri si s-treac\u0163 pisti tuti sinferurli personali ti agiungu s-hib\u0163 meschine\/\u2026atumtea c\u0163ndu t\u0163 agudescu sinferurli ghenerali.
\nVARTAN ARACHELIAN — Al\u2019 haristusescu multu di multu a Domnului Barba c\u0163te lo parti la aest\u0163 emisiuni.
\nVASILE BARBA — V\u0163 haristusescu s-mini Domnule Vartan Arachelian.
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\nDifuzat la TVR — OCT. 1993
\nAutor: Vartan Arachelian
\nApridu\u0163earea: Ta\u015fcu Lala<\/p>\n
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Domnul prof. Vasile Barba dit Germania, di la Universitatea Freiburg dit Germania lu-cunustet dit ndau\u00e3 emisiuni ti li ari adrat\u00e3 lirtatlu a nostru sot Virgil Tatomir tu anili di ma n\u00e3inti. N\u00e3su easti prezidentul a ULCA cu scamnul Freiburg tu Germania<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":187,"featured_media":660971,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[48847],"tags":[133911,133910,133912,133909],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-660970","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-oaspit-la-microfonlu-rri","tag-cursul-di-limba-armana","tag-mannheim-dit-1985-s-deapoa-freiburg-tu-1988","tag-mitropotlitlu-andrei-saguna","tag-muntali-a-pindului"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\n