{"id":660990,"date":"2014-09-17T12:38:00","date_gmt":"2014-09-17T09:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/devrri.freshlemon.ro\/actualitati\/in-memoriam-nacu-zdru-redactor-fimirida-frandza-vlaha-sua-id660990.html"},"modified":"2024-02-23T11:04:03","modified_gmt":"2024-02-23T09:04:03","slug":"in-memoriam-nacu-zdru-redactor-fimirida-frandza-vlaha-sua","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rri.ro\/ro_ar\/cultura-si-adet-armanesti\/oaspit-la-microfonlu-rri\/in-memoriam-nacu-zdru-redactor-fimirida-frandza-vlaha-sua-id660990.html","title":{"rendered":"In Memoriam: Nacu Zdru, redactor fimirida &#8220;Frandza Vlaha&#8221;, SUA"},"content":{"rendered":"<table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 style=width:100.0%; width=100%>&#13;<\/p>\n<tbody>&#13;<\/p>\n<tr>&#13;<\/p>\n<td>&#13;<\/p>\n<p>INTERVIU CU NACU ZDRU FONDATORLU \u015eI REDACTORLU A REVISTAL\u02b9EI \u201cFRANDZA VLAHA\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#13;\n\t\t\t<\/td>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t<\/tr>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<tr>&#13;<\/p>\n<td> <\/td>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t<\/tr>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<tr>&#13;<\/p>\n<td>&#13;<\/p>\n<p align=right><a><img alt=http:\/\/old.rri.ro\/images-def\/print.png border=0 height=12 src=file:\/\/\/C:\/Users\/LALA\/AppData\/Local\/Temp\/msohtmlclip1\/01\/clip_image001.png width=12 \/> Print<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#13;\n\t\t\t<\/td>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t<\/tr>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<tr>&#13;<\/p>\n<td>&#13;<\/p>\n<p>REPORTER Ta\u015fcu Lala &#8212; Lali Nacu tora ayon\u02b9a, pi 20 di Yinaru 2009 umplu\u015fi una mu\u015feata ilichie ti cari tu numa ali redac\u0163ie armaneasca di la RRI di Bucure\u015fti \u0163a spunem: \u201cTi mul\u0163a an\u02b9, sanatati \u015fi haraua tu naulu an\u201d!<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tLali Nacu, noi arman\u02b9il\u02b9i ti cunu\u015ftem ca jurnalistul armanescu \u0163i scuse\u015fi Revista \u201cFrandza Vlaha\u201d.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tTi placarsim s-na spun\u02b9 ndaua zboara ti lucarlu cu revista, candu in\u015fi protlu numir, catu chiro alanci, \u0163i s-nyrapsea tu ea \u015fi cum u aprucheara arman\u02b9il\u02b9i aesta revista?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Protlu numir in\u015fi tu anlu 1978, ari 31 di an\u02b9. Revista u sco\u015fu cu idheea ca vin\u02b9iu dit Gartise aoa (SUA) s-fa\u0163em \u0163iva bun ti armanami. &#8230;Mi-adunai cu Zahu Pana, mi-adunai cu Ciufecu, n-adunam vara dza\u0163i in\u015fi &#8230;s-la dau idheea a mea &#8211; cara nu va sa scutem una revista, nu va s-poata armanamea s-nvea\u0163a \u0163i fa\u0163em. Trebuie&#8230;s-fa\u0163em? da fura di acordusimfun\u02b9. Doi, trei fura simfun\u02b9, alan\u0163a nu fura simfun\u02b9di acordu ca nu la si dadea&#8230;avea paradz, ma nu la si dadea. \u015ei io ahurhiiu singur, deapoaia bagai ninti singur.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8211; Lali Naco cum u-aprucheara arman\u02b9il\u02b9i revista \u201cFrandza Vlaha\u201d ca noi na harsimu multu tu 1991, tu pro\u0163l\u02b9i an\u02b9 anda nchisimu lucurlu cu redac\u0163ia armaneasca?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Protlu numir lu-sco\u015fu feciu 1600 di copiiexemplari, \u015fi pitricui vara daua suti tu Gar\u0163ie, vara suta tu Romania, vara 50 tu Vargarie, 50 tu Serbia \u015fi Albania, tru tut Balcanlu \u015f-tru tuta Europa. \u015ei u am continuu u sco\u015f pi schinareaparadzl\u02b9i a mel\u02b9i. Ca nu putea ahtari sa s-faca&#8230;armanamea<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Lali Nacu \u015ftim ca fa\u0163e\u015fi parti dit gruplu al Vasili Barba cu Zahu Pana, Aurel Ciufecu, Virgil Puppi, Nicu Popescu,, V. Caramihai \u015fi al\u0163a nandoi arman\u02b9 dit Europa cu Miciu Bacu \u015fi G. Bardza, cari cu mul\u0163a an\u02b9 ninti tu 1981 va dusit la Na\u0163iun\u02b9ili Unite di New York. Cu a\u0163ea furn\u02b9ie dipusitu una plandziri.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tLali Nacu \u0163i caftari avea\u0163 tu a\u0163ea carti, cum s-dizvarti andamusea ali delega\u0163ie armaneasca cu reprezentan\u0163al\u02b9i di la ONU?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Earam vara \u015fapti in\u015fi, avea \u015fi un preftu romana\u015fu \u015fi n-a\u015ftiptara ghini. N-a\u015ftipta una doamna cari lo interviu lo discursu caftarea \u015fi dzasi ca s-nidzems-lucram pa\u015fnicirin\u02b9aticu. Va dzaca s-nu fa\u0163em grevimutari capu \u015fi ahtari lucri. \u015e-noi neasimu cum dzasi nasa.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Cu tin\u02b9ie. \u0162i va spusira la ONU ? \u0162i apandisi va deadira?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; U spusim \u201cFrandza Vlaha\u201d, atum\u0163ea nu avea in\u015fita ninga, deapoa in\u015fi Barba, cu revista \u201cZborlu a Nostru\u201d. Barba u scoasi dupa dza\u0163i an\u02b9 dupa mini. Io fui primlu cari u sco\u015fu, &#8230;ama fea\u0163i mari lucru \u015fi Barba. Ti a\u0163ea Barba lipsea\u015fti s-hib\u0103 al\u0103vdat ti lucurlu \u0163i lu-fea\u0163i.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Lali Nacu ti placarsescu sa-n\u02b9 spun\u02b9 nandaua zboara ti OMLU Vasile Barba, ti lucurlu a lui cu revista \u201cZborlu a Nostru\u201d, ti a\u0163eali \u0163in\u0163i congresi interna\u0163ionali di Freiburg ndreapti di ULCA, ti Recomandarea 13331997, ti CESA. Cum lu-cunuscu\u015fi tini profesorlu Vasile Barba?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Tu anlu 1985 fu prima adunari congres \u0163i s-\u0163anu (Freiburg) Mennheim cu vrearea al Barba. Dealihea ca avu \u015fi mul\u0163a ninga el \u0163i lu-agiutara, dit Sarbie, dit Vargarie, dit Gar\u0163ie (dit Fran\u0163a) \u015fi pi ninga ae\u015f\u0163a n-agiuta \u015fi prof. Dragan.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tVasile Barba, un om cu tin\u02b9ie, un om mintimen cari fea\u0163i multi ti armanami. Nu lipsea\u015fti s-dza\u0163em zbor slab ti armanami \u015f-ti Vasili. Ahat el catu \u015fi doamna \u015fi fra\u0163 di-aviyara, al Vasili, fu radz\u00e2tina ! Om cu sihati?. Vini la mini acasa \u015fidzu dza\u0163i dzali cu mul\u02b9iari-sa. \u015ei Katharina, gioni livenda mul\u02b9ari.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8211; Va s-dzaca avut uspi\u0163al\u02b9e cu fumeal\u02b9a Barba cu lali Vasili \u015f-cu teta Katharina Barba&#8230;<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Nuu, lali Vasili eara un domnu nu ari can\u0103 s-lu (angiur\u0103) s\u0103-lu c\u0103rteasc\u0103. \u015ei n-achic\u0103simu ghini ca&#8230;noi adevarat ca him rraman\u02b9, arman\u02b9 cum vrem sa-l\u02b9 dza\u0163em ama cu condi\u0163ia ca, na trapsim ca minoritari&#8230; Atum\u0163ea nu putea Na\u0163iun\u02b9ili Unite s-na uneasca. Na\u0163iunili Unite na ricunuscu ca minoritari n\u2019Gar\u0163ie, Sarbie, Vargarie, Albania.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Lali Nacu minduescu ca tu an\u02b9il\u02b9i ae\u015f\u0163a ai avdzata ti lucurlu \u0163i lu-facu su\u0163atili armane\u015f\u0163a dit Europa \u015fi dealihea \u015fi ditu Congresili dit SUA cu prezidentul prof. Aurel Ciufecu, ti ndrepturli a lor. Cari easti minduearea a ta lali Naco? \u0162i la dimandza a arman\u02b9ilor?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8211; Lucarlu mari cari lu-fea\u0163i, fu Barba, a\u0163el cari baga\u2026dza\u0163i an\u02b9 ma nainti arcai mini apa tu radzatina. Arcai apa tu radzatina, cu yinearea al Barba &#8230; agiumsim s-lucram, s-colaboram un-alantu. El fu omlu cari \u0163anea, u vrea multu la armanami.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; U vrea armanamea \u015fi putem s-dza\u0163em ca \u015fi nasu eara vrut tu armanami, poati s-nu fu pan di mardzina lucurlu a\u015fi cum vrea al\u0163a ta s-hiba adratu. Lali Nacu cari easti minduearea a ta, ti armanami, \u0163i la dimandza a arman\u02b9lor, ca\u0163e \u015ftim ca in\u015fira revistili \u201cFrandza Vlaha\u201d, \u201cZborlu a Nostru\u201d, cari va lu-du\u0163em ma largu ti tin\u02b9ia a profesorlui Vasile Barba, \u201cDe\u015fteptarea\u201d, \u201cGrailu Armanescu\u201d, \u201cBana Armaneasca\u201d, \u201cArmanamea\u201d, \u201cFar\u015fertorlu\u201d ti \u0163anearea tu bana a limbal\u02b9ei \u015fi cultural\u02b9ei armaneasca?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8211; Mini hiu di 90 di an\u02b9, tini ca\u0163 an\u02b9 ai? Ti mul\u0163a an\u02b9 lali Naco! Mini am 54 di an\u02b9.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8211; Nipot, nipot ti amu. \u015ei cu cuvantul a armanamil\u02b9ei&#8230; mini candu bagai \u201cFrandza Vlaha\u201d bagai ngeneral \u015f\u2019a\u0163el\u02b9i cari eara cu gre\u0163l\u02b9i \u015f\u2019a\u0163el\u02b9i cari eara cu sarghil\u02b9i \u015f-cu vargarl\u02b9i. Cuvantul vlah cum-n\u02b9 dzasi \u015fi directorlu Stoia di la Universitati, \u201cafla\u015fi naima uidisitlu zbor, noi him vlahi\u201d \u015fi-n\u02b9 deadi ndriptati omlu candu ne\u015fu la el. \u015e-dzasi: \u201ccontinuua cu zborlu vlah\u201d. Ama mini cu zborlu vlah bagai tuta armanamea.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tMa s-bagam zborlu armanamiarman atum\u0163ea tu ahurhita nu vrea s-adram \u0163iva. Ca vrea s-baga n\u0163apaturi di tuti par\u0163ali. Bagam vlah ta s-nu poata s-na n\u0163apa. Mi n\u0163apara, ala nu putura s-calca documenti ca dza\u015fu armanami.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tTu Europa na cunoscu ca vlahi, tora c\u0103 him noi arm\u0103n\u02b9 easti altu\u0163iva. Ama cu un zbor, lipsea\u015fti sa \u015fti\u0163, ma s-nu eara Romania nu exista ni\u0163i limba vlaha. Pi \u0163i baza? Ca primira di aoa tu 1868 zborlu di armanami, atum\u0163ea cu Margarit \u015fi cu Atanasescu. \u015ei va anun\u0163spun ca cu zborlu aestru earam sum tur\u0163a. Amintam atum\u0163ea cu tur\u0163al\u02b9i cu caftarea ali Romanie di\u015fcl\u02b9isimu \u015fcol\u02b9 \u015fi baseri\u0163.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; E, lali Naco cari easti minduearea a ta tu \u0163i mutrea\u015fti revistili \u0163i in\u015fira tora, ica tu chirolu di ma nainti. Au agiumta la tini revistili \u201cZborlu a Nostru\u201d,\u201cBana Armaneasc\u0103\u201d, Arm\u0103namea\u201d, Grailu Arm\u0103nescu\u201d\u015fi alti?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8211; E, \u201cZborlu a Nostru\u201d lu-am aprucheata continuu.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tDeapoa n\u2019\u0163ara, pitricui la tuti universita\u0163li dit Romania, u pitricui \u015fi tu Gar\u0163ie, la universita\u0163. Ama, problema easti ca bagam apa, bagai mini apa, baga Vasile apa tu rada\u0163ina \u015fi neadzi ghini \u015fi va neaga ghini daca va sa scute\u0163 \u015fi altili?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Tini Lali Nacu, e\u015f\u0163a faptu Candruva, tu Gar\u0163ie \u015fi am nvi\u0163ata ca aproapea cafi veara vahi nedz aclo. \u0162i po\u0163 s-na spun\u02b9 di a\u0163eali locuri \u015fi ti arman\u02b9il\u02b9i cu cari ti adun\u02b9 aclo?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Tora arman\u02b9il\u02b9i, mai ales n\u2019Gar\u0163ie, n\u2019Albania nu dza\u0163i guvernul \u0163iva. Ama tu Gar\u0163ie suntu contra a noastra. Ama, gre\u0163l\u02b9i candu va u veada ma zori \u015fi di alta parti, atum\u0163ea va na da \u015fi ndriptati. Ca vedz tora \u015fi&#8230;tensiuneamintirea\u015fili cu alti stati&#8230;Voi cum li vide\u0163 a\u0163eia lucarli?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; E Lali Naco, a\u015fi cum \u015ftii protili caftari, ica instumenti, hala\u0163, suntu revistili, fimiridzli a\u015fi cum ahurhi\u015fi tini cu \u201cFrandza Vlaha\u201d, deapoa lali Vasili Barba cu \u201cZborlu a nostru\u201d ama ta s-\u0163anem tu bana limba \u015f\u2019cultura armaneasca, un popul ica banatorl\u02b9i au ananghi di mass media, au ananghi di sculie \u015fi di gheavasea tu basearica, caftari \u0163i fura spusi \u015fi tu Recomandarea 13331997, nu?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU T.L. &#8212; Lipsea\u015fti ca tu\u0163 \u2018n\u0163ara s-hi\u0163 uni\u0163. Nu exista, nu i buna ca uoo&#8230; un easti far\u015firot, un easti cipan, un vargar, a\u0163eali s-li alasam. Tu\u0163 him arman\u02b9.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREDACTOR T.L. &#8212; A\u015fi easti lali Nacu. Ia tu aesta nima voi s-\u0163a spun ca aoa la redac\u0163ie candu ahurhim lucarlu tu 1991, ma mul\u0163al\u02b9i earam gramustean\u02b9, ama prof. N. Saramandu, scriitorlu H. Candruveanu, acad. M.C. Mario\u0163eanu, tu moeabetea \u015f\u2019cu l\u02b9irtatlu prof. Vasili Barba \u015fi directorlu a Departamentului RRI di Bucure\u015fti, D.V. Ionescu minduira ta s-avem di tuti falcarli, \u015fi far\u015firo\u0163. E aflam atum\u0163ea un far\u015firot, l\u02b9irtatlu Nicolae Celea, ma \u015fi dupu \u0163i lu-l\u02b9irta Dumidza noi alan\u0163a gramustean\u02b9il\u02b9i cu urminia a prof Saramandu bagam tu limbajlu radiofonic \u015fi zboara far\u015firute\u015f\u0163a. Tu chirolu di ma ncoa \u015fi aza iara avem un f\u00e2r\u015firot, regizorlu Toma Enache ma s-lu \u015ftii. Va s-dzaca s-him tu\u0163 una.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU. Maca tini va hii un mari chihae, cu canti\u0163i&#8230;? sanato\u015fi, cu taifuri, cu tuti, vrem cupia di oi, vrem oili. &#8230;Aidi cara va na varyimu, digeaba na varyimu, ca ma s-nu avem oi, ca \u0163e s-na varyimu, iu suntu oili? N\u2019Albania prima data, n\u2019Grecia a doua, a treia n\u2019Bulgaria, a patra n\u2019Kosovo, \u015ftii cari-i Kosovo? Rep-\u015etiu lali Naco.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tAma lipsea\u015fti, voi di n\u2019\u0163ara s-nu va maca\u0163, nu ari problema ca mini hiu far\u015ftirot, nu exista, him tu\u0163 Arman\u02b9. Ca ari \u015fi al\u0163a ma slaghima nghios ore&#8230; \u015fi a\u0163el\u02b9 suntu bun\u02b9, vor s-hiba arman\u02b9, nu avem \u0163iva contra a lui. Cipanu, vlahi, pinden\u02b9, avdil\u02b9a\u0163 di Avdela, viryean\u02b9. Iu-i majoritatea? Aza majoritatea easti Veria, armanamea. Easti Romania.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tTa\u015fco zburaiu cu una mul\u02b9ari mini, cipana easti aoa tu America. Dza\u015fu mini, a himaniclui cum-l\u02b9 dz\u0103\u0163e\u0163? Him\u0103nicu. Alantu galbinu? P\u0103pon\u02b9u. Nu exista. Peapini. Nu exista papon\u02b9iu, papon\u02b9u easti cuvant&#8230; ama noi al\u02b9 dza\u0163em pea-pi-ni.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tN.Z.- Voi cum-l\u02b9 dz\u0103\u0163e\u0163?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tRep. &#8211; Noi, papon\u02b9iu \u015f-himanicu.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tN.Z. &#8211; Himanicu&#8230;ca\u0163e pipon\u02b9iu ?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tRep.- Pepene-l\u02b9 dza\u0163ea tu limba romana aoa tu Romania. Tini a\u015fi lu \u015ftii zborlu, peapini?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tN.Z. &#8212; Peapini, tu Pindu&#8230;tu Veri&#8230;, tuta lumea dit Grecia dzacu peapini, arman\u02b9il\u02b9i. Pipon\u02b9iu, \u0163i va s-dzaca pipon\u02b9iu?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tRep. &#8212; Ti achicasescu.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Ti dada Tereza n\u02b9-adu\u015f aminti vream s-ti ntrebu un lucru Lali Naco. \u0162i \u015ftii ti nasa, ti Dada Tereza \u0163i easti dada la tu\u0163 banatorl\u02b9i, ma niscan\u0163a dzacu ca eara armana, al\u0163a dzacu ca eara arbinesa. Tini cum \u015ftii lali Naco?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Ngeneral eara armana. A l\u02b9ei-l\u02b9i dza\u0163ea Hagi di la tata-su. Deapoaia, nasa lo calea ali basearica, ca\u0163e eara armana.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8211; Mersi lali Naco \u015fi ti aest\u0103 ntribari. Tora lali Naco \u015f-tini mi ntriba\u015fi \u0163i adr\u0103m aoa tu Europa, arm\u0103n\u02b9il\u02b9i ic\u0103 su\u0163atili? E, aoa tu Europa, arm\u0103n\u02b9il\u02b9i da cicior, calca lucurlu cafi un cum poati, catu poati, cu revisti, cu sculii, op\u0163ionali, ica facultativi. Cu ghiavasea tu basearica nica nu s-du\u0163i lucarlu. Avem \u0163iva pref\u0163a \u0163i au fapta scul\u02b9olu ti preftu ma, nica nu canta tu basearica.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Ma lipsea\u015fti s-canta\u2026 n\u2019Albania avem preftu.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; E, avem aclo dealihea s-\u0163ani. S-\u0163ani gheavasea, canta preftul tu basearica pi armanea\u015fti, dealihea..<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU. &#8212; Ma s-nidze\u0163 ghini, s-hi\u0163 a\u0163eia uni\u0163, s-hi\u0163 uni\u0163 a\u0163eia, va nu va, va u veada zori \u015fi ea va u baga.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Ma multi su\u0163ati ditu Balcan\u02b9 dit Romania, dit Vargaria, dit Albania \u015fi dit R. Makedonia s-adunara tu un Consiliu Armanescu \u015fi s-duc Strasbourg s-li spuna lucarli, caftarli tu \u0163i mutrea\u015fti arman\u02b9il\u02b9i. Nu \u015ftiu desi ai nvi\u0163ata, di aestu Consiliu Armanescu?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Am avdzata di elu. Amainsa va u avem zori&#8230; maca s-va maca\u0163 a\u0163eia. S-hi\u0163 uni\u0163. Nu exista zborlu gramustean, far\u015firot, cipan&#8230; nu exista. Exista Armanami. Problema i ca noi far\u015firo\u0163l\u02b9i din Albania cari santu aproapea 500 di n\u02b9il\u02b9i noi dza\u0163em rramanu, nu dza\u0163emu armanu. Noi dza\u0163em rramanu ca a\u015fi dzacu arman\u02b9il\u02b9i din Albania, ama noi una , a\u0163ea va u spuna istoria ca \u0163i him, cum him. Noi ban\u0103m, iu b\u0103n\u0103m, a\u0163el\u02b9 him.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Him arman\u02b9 sigura. Ma loclu, loclu diu him Lali Naco?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Ia cum dza\u0163i un oaspi di a meu aoa\u0163i, lu-am n\u2019casa, di Canda: Noi him&#8230; majoritatea arman\u02b9ilor suntu din Albania, Tesalia \u015fi Epir. T.L. &#8211; Va s-dzaca tu chirolu di ma ninti arman\u02b9il\u02b9i eara tu a\u0163ea Makidunie, nu ?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Nuu\u2026 Pindu, Deniscu, Perivoli, insaama majoritatea eara Muscopoli. Moscopoli an\u02b9 dza\u0163i a n\u02b9eia, oaspi\u0163 \u0163i am aoa, eara 60 cu 70 di n\u02b9il\u02b9i popula\u0163ia, arman\u02b9, candu Gar\u0163ia nu avea 40 di n\u02b9il\u02b9i. Ancepuraahuhrira sarghili deapoaia vurgarl\u02b9i, albanejl\u02b9i deapoia \u015f-gre\u0163l\u02b9i. Gre\u0163l\u02b9i ultiml\u02b9i. Ca sa u cheara limba aesta ama una limba nu cheari ahat lic\u015for.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER &#8212; Lali Naco, aidi s-ti ntrebu ti una moeabeti cu numa. Sigura tu\u0163 na spunem arman\u02b9 asma Boiagi spusi \u00ab Gramatica armana ica macodeovlaha\u2019 ,Ma.C.Ma tu a l\u02b9ei Dodecalog spuni \u00ab arman\u02b9 ica macedovlahi \u00bb prof Vasile Barba ditu \u201995, \u201896 (tut atum\u0163ea avea scoas \u015fi M.C.Mario\u0163eanu Dodecaloglu) Barba tu revista avea bagata \u00ab Revista di cultura macedo-romana \u00bb Aca\u0163a, lipsea\u015fti, easti ananghi slu avem \u015fi zborlu aestu \u00ab macedo \u00bb ?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Macedoski dzacu n\u2019slava. InsaAma noi al\u02b9 dza\u0163em n\u2019Grecia: Di iu hii? Din Macedonia. Iu va nedz? N\u2019Macedonia. Nu avem noi zborlu makedona, tora putem s\u2019u fa\u0163em&#8230;\u00eensa..s-nu aduca, s-nu curma calea di la armanami. Vini aoa acasa la mini, unu Cota di Bucure\u015fti, profesor, tora easti New York. \u015ei-n\u02b9 dzasi a n\u02b9eia ca noi&#8230;voi a\u0163eia, a\u0163eia n\u2019Romania nu lipsea\u015fti s-va maca\u0163 un cu alantu. Fea\u0163itu tora adunari cipan\u02b9il\u02b9i. Nu-l\u02b9 cl\u02b9imat far\u015firo\u0163al\u02b9i !<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER T.L. &#8212; Cum nu, \u015fi far\u015firo\u0163l\u02b9i suntu cu noi. Avem far\u015firo\u0163l\u02b9i din hoara Pipera, di Custan\u0163a, avem far\u015firo\u0163l\u02b9i di Timi\u015foara dit Banat aoa tu su\u0163ati tu Romanie voi s-dzacu, him deadun cu far\u015firo\u0163l\u02b9i, nu him ahoryea Lali Naco.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Asculta, ma s-nu hi\u0163 deadun nu fa\u0163em \u0163iva. Ca\u0163e s-ave\u0163 daua comisii aco? Una comisie, mistica\u0163 gramustean\u02b9 cu far\u015firo\u0163. S-nu hiba dau\u0103. Ta\u015fco, i\u0163i adunari si s-fac\u0103 s\u0103-u f\u0103\u0163e\u0163 deadun. Noi \u0163i va fa\u0163em (una istorie), a dic\u0163ionar, \u0163i va fa\u0163e\u0163 di dic\u0163ionar? Asculta \u015f-mini, am dzasa al Barba, am dzas\u0103 ali Iorgoveanu am dz\u0103sa la ? Manciu, nu va s-pute\u0163 s-fa\u0163e\u0163 \u0163iva dipu. Va s-aduna\u0163 trei gramustean\u02b9, trei far\u015firo\u0163, trei pindean\u02b9 \u015fi va fa\u0163e\u0163 naua persoani sa scute\u0163 un dic\u0163ionar. Maca va sa scute\u0163 tora un dic\u0163ionar, \u0163i dic\u0163ionar va sa scute\u0163 tora ? Un dic\u0163ionar tu cari va sa spune\u0163 efharisto? Va sa scute\u0163 un dic\u0163ionar cari s-hiba ma curat niheama. Dic\u0163ionarlu a\u0163el va iasa ngeneral va hiba naua, optu cat va hiba tu Romanie, ma s-va aduna\u0163, putem s-yinimu \u015f-noi ma s-banam, a va aduna\u0163 \u015fi va fa\u0163e\u0163 un dic\u0163ionar. Ma s-fa\u0163e\u0163 un dic\u0163ionar ca oo&#8230;limba noastra i ma buna. Cari-i cama curata a\u0163ea-i ma buna.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREDACTOR T.L. &#8212; Lali Naco, sigura ari multi ti zburari ti aestu lucru cu dic\u0163ionarlu \u015fi a\u015fi cum \u015ftii, ai nvi\u0163ata Bitola s-fea\u0163i un simpozion ti standardizarea a limbal\u02b9ei armaneasca \u015fi va s-hiba \u015fi alti cum ari fapta pripunirea tin\u02b9isitlu Tiberiu Cunia di la voi ditu America \u0163i na vidzum \u015fi astaveara aoa Custan\u0163a \u015fi ari fapta pripunirea tu an\u02b9il\u02b9i di manclo sigura tu \u0163i mutrea\u015fti standardizarea a limbal\u02b9ei, neologhismili \u0163i s-li bagam tu zburari, tu limba armaneasca.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Nu va fa\u0163e\u0163 adunari ca s-nu v-achicasi\u0163 treili ica paturl\u02b9i: pindean\u02b9, gramustean\u02b9, far\u015firo\u0163, baga\u0163 mpadi \u015fi sa scute\u0163 una curata, curata limba.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREDACTOR T.L. &#8212; Una mu\u015feata, curata cum spuse\u015fi.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Baga\u0163 idheili aclo\u0163i, poati s-yina \u015f-di aoa \u0163iva. Ala, voi s-dzacu s-nu scute\u0163 digeaba paradz. S-da\u0163 paradz la un dic\u0163ionaru bunu. Cum dza\u0163 tini ?<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREDACTOR T.L. &#8211; I buna minduearea Lali Naco.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Nu va va fa\u0163e\u0163 apartiahoryea. Va v-aduna\u0163 trei, \u015f-trei, \u015fasi, naua&#8230;va va aduna\u0163 dza\u0163i persoani \u015f-va s-baga\u0163 mpadi. Cum va-l\u02b9 dza\u0163e\u0163 a zborlui apa ? Apa, val\u02b9i dza\u0163em. Cum va-l\u02b9i dza\u0163em a zborlui pani ? Pani. Adica curatu lucru. Digeaba va fa\u0163e\u0163 un dic\u0163ionar ma s-nu hiba curat.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREDACTOR T.L. &#8212; Achicasescu lali Naco, cum spuse\u015fi s-hiba di tuti par\u0163ali nu ? \u015ei yramustean\u02b9 \u015fi far\u015firo\u0163 \u015fi pindean\u02b9 \u015fi tu achicaseari un dic\u0163ionar mu\u015featu, limbidu nu, ti tuta armanamea, ti tu\u0163 arman\u02b9il\u02b9i.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; S-nu scute\u0163 apartiahoryea s-nu fa\u0163e\u0163 \u0163iva.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREDACTOR T.L. &#8212; Mersi multu lali Naco ti interviu, \u0163a uram multa, multa sanatati, s-ti harse\u015f\u0163a cu mu\u015featili habari di la armanami, ti a\u0163eali \u0163i n-ai spusa \u015f-tu aestu interviu, urminiili nu ? Va s-dzaca, calea buna \u015fi chischina tu \u0163i mutrea\u015fti lucarlu cu dic\u0163ionarlu, revistili, ghiavasea tu basearica, ica tu mass media, ica ti sculie.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8212; Aesta va u dzacu: cu minti \u015fi s-va achicasi\u0163. O ca tini hii tini ! Ore hiu mini \u015fi e\u015fti tini ! I\u0163i hiu mini e\u015fti tini ! \u0162i s-dzaca a\u0163ea Aurica ? Ca, n\u0163apaturli li baga ca\u0163al\u02b9i, nu li bagam noi. A, afla oamin\u02b9.<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tREPORTER \/ T.L. &#8212; Ghini cara lali Naco. Lali Naco arman\u02b9 sanatos ! Ca nu avem oara ti una moeabeti ma larga, vahi alta oara, cu alta ucazie, cu alta furn\u02b9e!<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tNACU ZDRU &#8211; Asculta idheea-a mea, Ta\u015fco: UNIREA FA\u0162I PUTEAREA !<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\t<br \/>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t\tTa\u015fcu Lala<\/p>\n<p>&#13;\n\t\t\t<\/td>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t\t<\/tr>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n\t<\/tbody>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n<\/table>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#13;<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Protlu numir in\u015fi tu anlu 1978, ari 31 di an\u02b9. Revista u sco\u015fu cu idheea ca vin\u02b9iu dit Gartise aoa (SUA) s-fa\u0163em \u0163iva bun ti armanami. &#8230;Mi-adunai cu Zahu Pana, mi-adunai cu Ciufecu, n-adunam vara dza\u0163i in\u015fi &#8230;s-la dau idheea a mea &#8211; cara nu va sa scute<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":187,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[48847],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-660990","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-oaspit-la-microfonlu-rri"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>In Memoriam: Nacu Zdru, redactor fimirida &quot;Frandza Vlaha&quot;, SUA - Radio Rom\u00e2nia Interna\u021bional<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rri.ro\/ro_ar\/cultura-si-adet-armanesti\/oaspit-la-microfonlu-rri\/in-memoriam-nacu-zdru-redactor-fimirida-frandza-vlaha-sua-id660990.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"ro_RO\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"In Memoriam: Nacu Zdru, redactor fimirida &quot;Frandza Vlaha&quot;, SUA - Radio Rom\u00e2nia Interna\u021bional\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Protlu numir in\u015fi tu anlu 1978, ari 31 di an\u02b9. 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